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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2002 12:56 am    Post subject: remake Reply with quote

Just wondering what people think. Are any remakes better then the original?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2002 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carpenter's The Thing springs immediately to mind.

Dirty Rotten Scoundrels is a much better film than is Bedtime Story.

I'll stop back when I think of some more.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2002 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Three Men and a Baby was better than Three Men and a Cradle, but that's not saying much.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2002 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

'An Affair to Remember' is better than 'Love Affair'.

I think the '54 'A Star is Born' is better than the '37 (for obvious reasons).

Certainly the recent 'Lord of the Rings' trounces the Bakshi version.

There are early, silent versions of a lot of classic stories, but does that make Disney's 'Snow White and the Seven Dwarves' or Olivier's 'Hamlet' a remake?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2002 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just The Thing.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2002 6:54 pm    Post subject: remake Reply with quote

Mrs. Norman Maine wrote:
'An Affair to Remember' is better than 'Love Affair'.

I think the '54 'A Star is Born' is better than the '37 (for obvious reasons).

Certainly the recent 'Lord of the Rings' trounces the Bakshi version.

There are early, silent versions of a lot of classic stories, but does that make Disney's 'Snow White and the Seven Dwarves' or Olivier's 'Hamlet' a remake?

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Interesting replies. Ta all.
This above is probably the same list i would make myself
I do think there is a difference between doing an excisting story again and redoing a film. Many stories had a life before they were put on screen
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2002 1:37 pm    Post subject: Having thought about it... Reply with quote

I'd give the modern Thomas Crown Affair a slight edge over the earlier version.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2002 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought "Always" was much more enjoyable than "A guy named Joe".

John Carpenter's "The Thing" is, of course, the shiznit. Anybody else buying the game for it that's coming out soon?

How about movies that you'd like to see remade?

My top pick would be the Seven Samurai. This movie has been ripped off so many fucking times, from "magnificent Seven" to "A Bug's Life" - isn't it time someone did a proper homage? If I had a hundred million dollars (give or take) to throw around, and the movie rights, I'd write the screenplay (with as much respect to the original as possible), assemble a talented asian-american cast, train them like they trained the cast of "The Matrix" for six months with a grueling regimen of Iaido and Kendo, film it on location in Japan, and create an awesome movie with some truly memorable fight scenes. I think the hardest character to recast from the original would be Toshiro Mifune's "Kikuchiyo" - that guy was fucking awesome!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2002 11:25 am    Post subject: Oh God no... Reply with quote

Personally, that would have me give up on cinema altogether. I'd barf internally. A re-release and remaster would do me just fine.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2002 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey if it were done right, it could be great.

I would like a remastered re-release as well. And is it just me, or does a lot of the dialogue from the current video release seem to be left out of the subtitles? I remember the last time I watched it, there would be some fairly big chunks of dalogue with no subtitles to accompany them. Are the Japanese incredibly verbose, or was the subtitler just lazy?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2002 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does 'Miller's Crossing' count?

It's better than 'The Glass Key', but, technically, it's not so much a re-make as a broad adaptation of the same book.

I'm partial to the '78 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers' myself.

Oh, and, of course, the standard lazy film buff answers:
Ben-Hur and The Maltese Falcon
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2002 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To me, it's not a remake unless it's a remake of the actual movie.

Varying adaptations of one source material are just adaptations.

Yes?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2002 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then why would such perrenial answers to this oft-asked question as Carpenter's 'The Thing' or Huston's 'Maltese Falcon' count? I was under the impression that at least a large part of the reason that these two movies were made was to make a movie that was closer to the original story than the original movies were.

[Yes, I recognize the difference, I guess I'm just playing a little bit of devil's advocate here.]

I'm pleasantly surprised nobody has said 'Ocean's 11' yet, though I have a feeling that's more because nobody saw the original than that nobody liked the new one.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2002 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm pleasantly surprised nobody has said 'Ocean's 11' yet, though I have a feeling that's more because nobody saw the original than that nobody liked the new one.


Actually, I tried to rent the original on Netflix. They sent me the new one in the sleeve for the 1960's one. Bastards. Is the old one worth checking out?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2002 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw the original Ocean's 11 on the AMC channel. It was a big bloated vanity piece with very little energy.

The remake I liked quite a bit, though it's also piffle.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2002 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A vanity piece with Frank Sinatra? whoda thunkit Smile

Guess I won't be reordering it. I liked the new one too, but yeah, complete and utter piffle. And does Julia Roberts have to be in every fucking movie?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2002 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tombstone over Wyatt Earp

Tombstone was a damn well made movie, but I expected the Larry Kasdan Wyatt Earp remake to be better, since ITS LAWRENCE FUCKING KASDAN FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!!! How wrong I was, and how suicide inducing was that 3 hour experience. One of the worst films ever. And Tombstone is still better than Wyatt Earp, miles better

7 Days In May another thrill ride, much better than the shitty Forest Whitaker remake The Enemy Within.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2002 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

D'oh!

Forgot "The Man Who Knew Too Much". The Hitchcock version, that is, not the earlier, inferior Hitchcock version.
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