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Dumb and Dumberer: When Harry Met Lloyd
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by EricDSnider

"A dumb movie about dumb people. Dumb audiences will eat it up."
2 stars

“Dumb and Dumber” was about dumb characters, but it was clearly made by smart people. Its prequel, “Dumb and Dumberer: When Harry Met Lloyd,” is about dumb characters, too, but this time apparently made by people who weren’t very smart themselves. The film mocks its protagonists’ stupidity, blissfully unaware of how hypocritical that stance is in light of the cluelessness of the film itself.

I’m at a loss to explain why “Dumb and Dumberer” even exists, let alone to fathom any of the material within it. Events seem to transpire independently of each other, without regard for reason or sense, like a series of random sketches inspired by fever dreams. (The director and co-writer, Troy Miller, has had most of his experience working on sketch TV programs like “Mr. Show” and “The Ben Stiller Show.”)

For example: Since a bathroom scene is obligatory in a movie like this — especially after Jeff Daniels’ famous moment in the earlier film — the high school version of Harry (Derek Richardson) allows a chocolate bar to melt in his pocket, causing him to think, upon inspection in a bathroom, that he has had an “accident.” Inexplicably, the melted candy bar is soon all over the mirror and walls, as well as on Harry’s body, head to toe. How this much chocolate was obtained from a single bar is beyond me, and how Harry manages to smear it everywhere rather than simply washing it off his hands is even more incomprehensible. It does not matter that none of this would or even could occur in real life; what is important to the director is that the image of an entire bathroom slathered in chocolate goo is funny.

The story of Rhode Island dimwits Harry and Lloyd joins them in 1985, despite subtitles telling us 18 years have passed since Harry was born in 1969, which would make it 1987. Harry is adjusting to his first days in public school after being home-schooled all his life. He meets Lloyd (Eric Christian Olsen) immediately, and the sunny dunderheadism they share makes them fast friends. (Lloyd, by the way, lives at the school with his inexplicably Latino father, who is the janitor.)

Harry and Lloyd are called upon by the devious principal (Eugene Levy) to select classmates for the newly formed “special needs” class, of which they of course are charter members. The class is really just a ruse so the principal can embezzle extra funds from the state and run off to Hawaii with the lunchlady (Cheri Oteri); you will note that, despite the presence of Eugene Levy and Cheri Oteri, the film remains unfunny, a feat that must have required superhuman effort.

Since this film’s trailer is known to virtually anyone who has attended a movie within the past six months, it is worth observing that very few of the trailer’s scenes actually appear in the movie, apparently having been cut in the final edit. And while I applaud any efforts to make the film more endurable by shortening it, I fear it was overdone in this case. The closing-credits outtakes montage shows that several entire scenes were cut, and during the film proper, Harry has a flashback sequence in which he flashes back to things that did not actually occur in the movie.

This proves my major thesis, which is that the film barely has any structure at all, and that things can be added to or subtracted from it at will. It has the loose story of Harry and Lloyd being unwitting victims of the principal’s scheme, but then it has numerous unrelated sequences that have been included merely because someone thought they were entertaining, which, for the most part, they are not.

Olsen and Richardson are amiable leads, but they are light years from Jim Carrey’s awe-inspiring physicality or Jeff Daniels’ giggly inanity. That they resemble the other actors is their best asset, and you know you’re in trouble when you’re casting your film based solely on what people look like.

The one thing the movie has going for it is its relentless pursuit of verbal absurdity. There’s something almost Python-ian about exchanges like this:

HARRY: (holds up what is obviously a treasure map)
LLOYD: Is that what I think it is?
HARRY: No, it’s a treasure map.
LLOYD: Cool.

In talented hands, characters as harmlessly naive as this can be endearing, funny and memorable. Think of Peter Sellers in “Being There,” or hulking Lenny in “Of Mice and Men,” or even the clueless lot in “Waiting for Guffman.” Just because dimness is your subject matter doesn’t mean your treatment of it has to be dim. Dumbness is not the same as mindlessness. The Farelly Brothers knew that when they made the original; the people who made this movie don’t seem to know anything.

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User Comments

7/07/09 *Holy_J@lapeno* I loved the origional D&D. This movie was a utter dissappointment. Stay away...FAR AWAY! 1 stars
4/16/07 Cliff Bad movie, Rachel Nichols is beautiful however. 2 stars
7/12/06 Marty despite bob saggett i will never forgive this movie, ever 1 stars
3/01/06 chris f this movie disgusts me i cant bear to wtach this trash again 1 stars
9/01/05 ES Not that bad, the guys really did a good job playing Harry and Lloyd, some funny moments 4 stars
6/06/05 JD The 1st one was funny, this movie is an insult. 1 stars
4/02/05 fhf even unfunnierer than the original. 1 stars
3/23/05 indrid cold In retrospect, has come to be appreciated as almost as good as "Mary." 4 stars
1/14/05 Jeff Anderson Unfunny, pathetic garbage. Why they made this poor excuse for a prequel, I'll never know. 1 stars
7/17/04 Nobody The name says it all 1 stars
6/21/04 Joellen Miller it was terrible the first was my favorite by far. I watched the first one over 100 times 1 stars
6/09/04 The More You Know The original's retardeder clone. 2 stars
5/08/04 paul robinson its the greatest movie in all the land 5 stars
3/21/04 Elena This movie recognizes that it's bad, but it is funny as hell. It's a classic. 5 stars
1/21/04 your mom it sux !!!! 1 stars
1/02/04 J Oh no!!! The retard are not funny! Dumb and Dumber is funnier! 1 stars
12/25/03 steve irwin the first one was hilarious, but the second one was absolute garbage, i don't know how they 1 stars
12/19/03 Kent Stay away from this crap 1 stars
12/19/03 Ryan Moore Fairly good, and critics have no right to dump it. 4 stars
12/18/03 alien assassin excruciatingly unfunny. Stay home and watch your Mr. Bean DVD's instead !!!!! 1 stars
12/02/03 danielle little its ok some of it is lame but its realy funny 4 stars
11/29/03 jmsynth A couple of laughs, but feels like it lasts forever and just really, really bad 1 stars
11/23/03 Samuel Definetly not better than the first, but all in all a sorta funny movie... 4 stars
11/20/03 Hartley Spurlock It SUCKED 1 stars
10/21/03 Boris Smtih I saw T3 soon after seeing this. T3 was funnier, and wasn't even a fucking comedy! 1 stars
8/28/03 smart enough not to watch this! crappest movie of our time 1 stars
8/16/03 jim scott the greatest movie of our time 5 stars
8/05/03 JonBenet Ramsey's Ghost Earlier later set movie was better. Still some laughs here; remarkable look-alike leads. 3 stars
7/22/03 Double G OHHH, HARRY LLOYD guess whats harry, hahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 5 stars
7/20/03 George Jung Even Jack Sommersby doesn't suck as this movie! 1 stars
7/05/03 Terrance Rogers Funny as HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 5 stars
6/30/03 Scott Ross Funny movie, Better then Dumb & Dumber 4 stars
6/29/03 David A. Lloyd and Harry were pitiful, rather than funny as in the original. It needed Jim Carrey 2 stars
6/21/03 israel ruiz this movie has so many f**k ups in it,it sucked ass 1 stars
6/20/03 Danog damn are all you people stiffs, the jokes kept on rolling in through the whole movie 4 stars
6/20/03 gone blind so hell is being chained to a movie theatre seat watching dumb and dumberer 1 stars
6/19/03 CWX Worth seeing only so you know just how bad a movie can be... 1 stars
6/17/03 RIP This movie is so terrible that my best friend died in the movie theater while watching it!! 1 stars
6/17/03 Matt Everyone keeps saying it's terrible...but if you like stupid humor, you WILL laugh 4 stars
6/16/03 Flounder One of the biggest pieces of excrement that has ever graced the silver screen! 1 stars
6/16/03 Maxx Worst Movie Of 2003! 1 stars
6/16/03 Justin Osborne A failed attempt at recreating one of the best comedies of all time, but i still laughed. 3 stars
6/15/03 How What a piece of c**p!! The only reason I went is my kid took me on Father's Day. Even he wa 1 stars
6/15/03 dave Brenner should have both hands cut off so he can never write again. 1 stars
6/15/03 bobbuttons 2nd worst movie ever made. Tomcats takes that title 1 stars
6/14/03 Earl Dittman, Wireless Magazine The few people laughing when I saw this were lighting their own farts in the back row 1 stars
6/13/03 Darth Haggis Top Ten Worst 1 stars
6/13/03 Jack Bourbon That critics ganged up on this movie is shame. Lot's of good characters and dumb jokes. 4 stars
6/13/03 Jake Totally retarded! 1 stars
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