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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 10:37 pm    Post subject: Heroes Reply with quote

I think we should all plan to watch Heroes from the beginning so we can all talk about it together. I think it looks pretty excellent.

Check the trailer here.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

could be good - although this theme is starting to be done to death (xmen, 4400, etc). But I'll give the first one a spin, at least.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

missed the first episode because fucking comcast never fucking showed up to hook up my fucking cable - fucking assholes.

Will catch next week's - and hopefully this week's will end up on itunes or something.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was - caught it at a friend's house. Not bad. I'm curious to see where they take it. The only part I didn't like was the opening crawl about how they were destined to save the world, blah blah blah. Totally unecessary. Just let us meet the characters and piece things together for ourselves!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree McKay, the expository preamble for me, obliterates any suspense or mystery right from the get go. Don't worry folks, its all gonna be alright! The name of the show is Heroes!-- Ok, what's my stake for tuning in then? I already know Ali Larter's gonna put her Hulk character towards good, that the evil Clark Kent father will be thwarted, and somehow selfish flying older brother will see the light and be a force for good. You just told me all of that in the first seconds. Why watch?

If they wanted to follow through on their obvious "Unbreakable" approach- powers and destiny encroaching on these people's day to day lives- then the endgame shouldn't be so damn apparent, especially when they are borrowing so heavily from the "Lost" playbook.

I could be wrong of course, but honestly, it soured the premise for me.

That said, I'll watch this thing for Hiro alone. Fucking great character- so much more interesting than the maudlin whiteys in the good ol' US of A.

Hope this isn't the next "Surface".
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well they might still manage to surprise us (I'm hoping). But yeah, that opening scrawl just gave away too much. Once again, they figured they had to dumb it down for Joe "dumbfuck" Nielson and over-explain things from the get go.

Funny you mention how they're playing from the LOST playbook. I thought the same thing. It's not hard to predict that that's going to be the trend on a lot of new shows for as long as LOST stays popular.

Oh Mister Angry Jew, we have yet to hear your 2 cents on the matter - chime in, beotch!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not that the crawl gave away too much. It's that the crawl was hilariously tacky and lame. The second it popped up, it lost the show for me.

And yeah, it looks like yet another season of gee-I-hope-we-can-make-it-feel-like-Lost. Snooze.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know, the more I think on it, the more excited I'd be to simply see a show on the day to day office life in Japan.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was a bit unimpressed with the show - although not as much as I disliked the pilot to Smallville and never went back.

I'm still going to hang around for a few as I suspect it was just getting bogged down in a LOT of setup. But of the new shows I've seen so far its the weakest.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To Smallville's credit it did get better but then it settled back into somewhat boring. There was a funny moment in the season premiere where Clark could have saved a fellow Kryptonian, but chose to cut and run instead, a very un-Super moment for him. I'll keep watching, but its been downgraded to one of those shows I have my laptop on during, only occassionaly glancing up at the screen.

I figured someone would run with "The Office" joke Goss. Actually I was pretty sure it would be you. Razz Me, I'd just call it "Hiros". Or move it to Greece and call it "Gyros".
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smallville lost me when they went to China. Jumped The Shark.

As for Heroes, nothing better airs that hour, so why not? (And NO, I don't consider 2.5 Men or New Adventures, Old Crap better alternatives.)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This episode was, to me at least ten times better than the first. Cut to the chase, focused on all the right characters (the addition of the not a good test-taking but mind-reading cop was great), better pacing, more compelling sequences and mysteries (and once again Jiro steals the show whenever he's onscreen)- overall I'm ready to stick. Even Ali Larter, she of the perpetual slack jaw was interesting and her arc is shaping up to be a doozy.

And who was that magnificent looking Fed (at the horrific crime scene/mind reading cop intro) that looks like a fusion of Maggie Gyllenhaal and Marg Helgenberger in all the right ways? Wow. Clear off a space on the Hottie Draft, we've got a contender!

And by the way, anybody else note the rather obvious traitorous confidant that was introduced, who will no doubt end up fucking over one of our protagonists?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If my hottie radar hasn't failed me - the hot fed was Stacy Haiduk, probably best known for Superboy and SeaQuest.

Tip: Try to find a copy of Luther the Geek. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Episode two had me screaming at the TV. Great entertainment.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny but I had an extreme mixed reaction to it. The cheerleader storyline I think is quite ridiculous in the way its being handling and I think I still have residual Jess-hatred from Gilmore Girls so I'm not into that yet either.

In fact, halfway through the episode after the cheerleader's head was snapped completely 180 by a shot from a football player (gimme a break) I actually called a friend and said I was about to bail on the show.

Then I completely liked the cop and the mind-reading and the arc that Ali Larter's character is taking is quite interesting. The FX in NY at the end were quite lame though. But it does have me for at least another episode or two.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, Ep 3- my favorite of the shows so far- were just about done with the exposition, the intrigue deepens, we have some truly fun developments, and Hiro contnues to be the consistently best thing about the show- my heart got warm just from watching him perform his first save- what a wonderful moment.

Fun stuff with the unknown enemy as well. So he's a "Pusher" and he's either bulletproof or wearning enough kevlar to not have to worry about broken ribs.

And man, who knew Ali Larter could own a show this much?

Great ending shot as well.

And one of my favorite touches? Easy. Anytime you have a nerdy guy writing a superhero show, or someone like Jeph Loeb producing, your average handsome, charming, million dollar smile jock is always, always, ALWAYS a manipulative, brutish date rapist. Holy Non-Consentual Insertion Batman!

"Football season is over. Kurt and Ram had nothing to offer the school but date rape and AIDS jokes."
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm officially hooked on the show. I love where they're going with the storyline. Interesting that the same jock has killed claire effectively twice. Who doesn't love Hiro? The guy's attitude is awesome!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Picking up serious momentum and getting better and better.

Hiro's acquiescence to his friend's logic on how ethical Peter Parker's sales of Spider Man photos to the Bugle is, compared with the profits to be reaped gambling was absolutely priceless. I love this show. And how fun was watching Ali Larter beat up a Goombah and make him whimper with her high heel?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Rain Man scene with Hiro and his friend in the casino escalator - fucking classic.

I dig the show so far. it drags every now and again, but each week it ends with some cool new twist. I'm in it for the season.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really upset last night- we ended up taping "Heroes" on a regular old VCR tape as our cable system is changing things around essentially wiping out whatever we have saved, and the missus and I wanted to play some Lego Star Wars on the flat screen, which

1. is as entertaining, fan-based and fun a Star Wars game as I have ever played
2. Marc's Rule of Acquisition # 68: When you have a wife that actively wants to play X-box (and yes, the game was a present to her) you fucking play X-box with her wherever, whenever. She's returning the favor tomorrow by picking me up Marvel Ultimate Alliance.

So anyway, we're snuggled in for the night and watching "Heroes" and the sound cuts out for about 30 seconds- frustrating, but not a dealbreaker- this is in the first 20 minutes. Then in the last 15, the sound goes out completely. I don't think this was a network thing, I think it was a shitty VCR tape. I was so angry. I know they replay the shows at some point, but man...

Tonight, first thing after feeding the fish I'm ejecting the tape and stomping it to pieces.

Ah, the problems of the young, white and priviledged.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This last ep lost a few points with me on the plot (but only because I'd figured more than a few of these things out waaaaaay before).

Nonetheless, the character work is superb even if the show is telegraphing its punches from a mile away. I had the traitor pegged from the moment the character conveniently stepped on the screen, and I knew who was behind the chicanery in the Ali Larter household a while back. The Kitty Pryde stuff was nice though, and I see a way for the plot to go which would actually breathe some extra life and intrigue (one character turning out to be a villain after all and one character turning out to be a hero).

The Cheerleader stuff was kinda flat this round, but Hiro and his pal are always a ball to watch, and overall the show is still a go with me.

Not everything needs to be "Lost"- one of the reasons I just shrug off "The Nine" and "Six Degrees" gets whatever attention I'm not giving my wife, my fish, my home, laptop, etc.

I will confess a deep affection for "How I met your Mother" the only sitcom I will sit through with rapt attention, with a truly inspired performance by Neil Patrick Harris that overcomes my dislike of the schmucky, boring main character.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, this week was sort of a consolidation episode - make a few things Perfectly Clear to the less-obsessed viewers, save some money on special effects (and, apparently, not paying Greg Grunberg), make the Big Sweeps Events look even bigger in comparison.

I wonder if that genetic screening Clare's mother talked about was that even as a baby, Clare seemed pretty much immune to pain. I know there's an actual syndrome like that. If so, her being ridiculously stupid clumsy makes a lot more sense - if she's never learned that a hot pan is more than a minor inconvenience, for instance, I'm willing to buy that she trips and breaks her neck because she never learned to break her fall.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hiro and Ando are so much fun to watch, I could keep going just on their antics. If Hiro doesn't make you happy, you must be undead.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in full agreeance Maegsie. I get a big dumb grin from Hiro. Its all the joy of helping and saving others that was missing from Daredevil, X-3, Fantastic Four, the list lamentably goes on...
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has that asshat Scott even watched this show since he started this thread and proposed we all watch it? Loser! haha. Anyway, like everyone else has said, it has its slow spots, but I love it.
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